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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/06/30/cherry-wine-recipe/comment-page-1/#comment-66282</link>
		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Patsy,

I always thought that cherry wine needed a little something extra, and I like your idea about blending it with raspberry  and rhubarb wine.

Erroll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Patsy,</p>
<p>I always thought that cherry wine needed a little something extra, and I like your idea about blending it with raspberry  and rhubarb wine.</p>
<p>Erroll</p>
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		<title>By: Patsy</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/06/30/cherry-wine-recipe/comment-page-1/#comment-65988</link>
		<dc:creator>Patsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been making wine for several years now. I started with Concord grapes from my yard. That wine took too long to cure, so I switched to fruit wines. Cherry is one of my favorites, but I have made Peach, Apple, Elderberry, Chokecherry, Raspberry, Rhubarb and probably a few more I have forgotten. 
My favorite wine is to make 3/4 cherry recipe and then add raspberry and rhubarb to the recipe. Raspberry is very strong, so not to add too much. Also, elderberries are very messy and mushy, to to avoid a mess and get more juice, pick the ripe ones and don&#039;t even wash them just put them in freezer bags and wash them when frozen. It is so much better. After a while, you get brave and creative, and use your favorite fruit to experiment. I have never made a wine I didn&#039;t like. Great hobby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been making wine for several years now. I started with Concord grapes from my yard. That wine took too long to cure, so I switched to fruit wines. Cherry is one of my favorites, but I have made Peach, Apple, Elderberry, Chokecherry, Raspberry, Rhubarb and probably a few more I have forgotten.<br />
My favorite wine is to make 3/4 cherry recipe and then add raspberry and rhubarb to the recipe. Raspberry is very strong, so not to add too much. Also, elderberries are very messy and mushy, to to avoid a mess and get more juice, pick the ripe ones and don&#8217;t even wash them just put them in freezer bags and wash them when frozen. It is so much better. After a while, you get brave and creative, and use your favorite fruit to experiment. I have never made a wine I didn&#8217;t like. Great hobby.</p>
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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/06/30/cherry-wine-recipe/comment-page-1/#comment-55987</link>
		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Brian,

I&#039;m glad the taste test went well. You mentioned a surface film, and that concerns me. It&#039;s best to physically remove it from you wine, either by carefully racking or by floating it out, then treat with sulfite.

You asked what it should taste like. I used to get frustrated when people told me that something tasted &quot;gamey,&quot; until I ate venison. Now I think I know, but describing it in words? I don&#039;t think I can, not without using the word gamey or referring to venison. It&#039;s the same with oxidized wine. I&#039;ve tasted it, I think I know it pretty well, but without saying things like, &quot;you know, a little like sherry&quot; I don&#039;t know how to describe it.

I&#039;m having the same problem with a kit wine I&#039;ve been making. Everything went without a hitch, but there&#039;s something off about it. After writing down all the tastes and smells that came to mind, the Lady of the House and I did Google searches on those words plus things like &quot;infection&quot; or &quot;wine fault.&quot; Sadly, I may have my first case of Brett. It&#039;s often described as having a &quot;barnyard&quot; odor. Barnyard, huh? I grew up in the city and I don&#039;t know what barns or barnyards smell like 

Anyway, you&#039;re not the first to let an airlock run dry - I&#039;ve done it myself. When things don&#039;t work out, learn from them. When they do, open a bottle and celebrate!

Erroll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Brian,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad the taste test went well. You mentioned a surface film, and that concerns me. It&#8217;s best to physically remove it from you wine, either by carefully racking or by floating it out, then treat with sulfite.</p>
<p>You asked what it should taste like. I used to get frustrated when people told me that something tasted &#8220;gamey,&#8221; until I ate venison. Now I think I know, but describing it in words? I don&#8217;t think I can, not without using the word gamey or referring to venison. It&#8217;s the same with oxidized wine. I&#8217;ve tasted it, I think I know it pretty well, but without saying things like, &#8220;you know, a little like sherry&#8221; I don&#8217;t know how to describe it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m having the same problem with a kit wine I&#8217;ve been making. Everything went without a hitch, but there&#8217;s something off about it. After writing down all the tastes and smells that came to mind, the Lady of the House and I did Google searches on those words plus things like &#8220;infection&#8221; or &#8220;wine fault.&#8221; Sadly, I may have my first case of Brett. It&#8217;s often described as having a &#8220;barnyard&#8221; odor. Barnyard, huh? I grew up in the city and I don&#8217;t know what barns or barnyards smell like </p>
<p>Anyway, you&#8217;re not the first to let an airlock run dry &#8211; I&#8217;ve done it myself. When things don&#8217;t work out, learn from them. When they do, open a bottle and celebrate!</p>
<p>Erroll</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 03:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The taste test was good, the wine tasted green but not like vinegar.  since putting the water in the lock I have noticeable action going on.  I will let it go a while and rack to a 3 gallon.  Thanks for the help and the awesome recipe.  If you have any other input it&#039;s as always appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The taste test was good, the wine tasted green but not like vinegar.  since putting the water in the lock I have noticeable action going on.  I will let it go a while and rack to a 3 gallon.  Thanks for the help and the awesome recipe.  If you have any other input it&#8217;s as always appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 06:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erroll,
Thank you for the advice, I did put the water into the lock, I used your recipe I added more sugar though.  SG 1.09.  The wine is finished fermenting as far as I can tell.  I put it into the secondary on Aug 1st.  There is a little film on the surface of the liquid, when I tap the side of the carboy I get a few bubbles but no real action.  I will taste it tomorrow morning.  Sorry this is a dumb question but what should it taste like?  I assume if it is sour it has gone bad?  Do you think there is any chance of it being good?  Thanks and sorry for the ignorance, this is my first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erroll,<br />
Thank you for the advice, I did put the water into the lock, I used your recipe I added more sugar though.  SG 1.09.  The wine is finished fermenting as far as I can tell.  I put it into the secondary on Aug 1st.  There is a little film on the surface of the liquid, when I tap the side of the carboy I get a few bubbles but no real action.  I will taste it tomorrow morning.  Sorry this is a dumb question but what should it taste like?  I assume if it is sour it has gone bad?  Do you think there is any chance of it being good?  Thanks and sorry for the ignorance, this is my first time.</p>
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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 15:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian,

First, get it under an airlock right away. Taste it to see if it has become oxidized (depends on how long, if it was still fermenting, if it was protected with sulfite). Good luck!

Erroll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,</p>
<p>First, get it under an airlock right away. Taste it to see if it has become oxidized (depends on how long, if it was still fermenting, if it was protected with sulfite). Good luck!</p>
<p>Erroll</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erroll,
I thought I had done my homework quite well, however I feel I might have messed up my cherry wine, after the initial fermentation I put my wine in my 5 G carboy and put in the fermentation lock but unknowingly left out the liquid that goes into the lock to prevent oxygen from going in.  Have I ruined it?  And how will I know?  Should I just taste it, and if so what shall I look for?  The kicker is that I was only planning on saving a bottle or two and turning the rest into cherry wine vinegar.  Any advice would be very much appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erroll,<br />
I thought I had done my homework quite well, however I feel I might have messed up my cherry wine, after the initial fermentation I put my wine in my 5 G carboy and put in the fermentation lock but unknowingly left out the liquid that goes into the lock to prevent oxygen from going in.  Have I ruined it?  And how will I know?  Should I just taste it, and if so what shall I look for?  The kicker is that I was only planning on saving a bottle or two and turning the rest into cherry wine vinegar.  Any advice would be very much appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you think I can get good fermentation without the pulp (using just rehydrated Lalvin 71B). I can also retrieve the pulp from the sheets and store it in a cheese cloth to add to the must to enhance fermentation. What do you suggest? Also, since I grow cherries and apples for a living, is there any reason to add water to my must?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Hi Steve,
I think you can get good fermentation with just the juice, and I&#039;m really jealous of your press!

The decision to ferment on the pulp comes down to what style of wine you want to make. Do you want to make something like a white or rose? In the end, I didn&#039;t make one but here are my thoughts on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/06/17/white-wine-from-cherries/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;making white cherry wine&lt;/a&gt;. If you go this rout, use juice only and ferment cool. More like a red wine? Ferment with the pulp (but not too long - 3 days, maybe). A little less acid than a white/rose.

You might want to add water if the juice is too acidic, because &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/07/31/cherry-wine-recipe-sugar-and-acid/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reducing acidity in cherry wine is tricky&lt;/a&gt;. Or you could deal with high acid by sweetening.

Erroll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do you think I can get good fermentation without the pulp (using just rehydrated Lalvin 71B). I can also retrieve the pulp from the sheets and store it in a cheese cloth to add to the must to enhance fermentation. What do you suggest? Also, since I grow cherries and apples for a living, is there any reason to add water to my must?</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Hi Steve,<br />
I think you can get good fermentation with just the juice, and I&#8217;m really jealous of your press!</p>
<p>The decision to ferment on the pulp comes down to what style of wine you want to make. Do you want to make something like a white or rose? In the end, I didn&#8217;t make one but here are my thoughts on <a href="http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/06/17/white-wine-from-cherries/" rel="nofollow">making white cherry wine</a>. If you go this rout, use juice only and ferment cool. More like a red wine? Ferment with the pulp (but not too long &#8211; 3 days, maybe). A little less acid than a white/rose.</p>
<p>You might want to add water if the juice is too acidic, because <a href="http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/07/31/cherry-wine-recipe-sugar-and-acid/" rel="nofollow">reducing acidity in cherry wine is tricky</a>. Or you could deal with high acid by sweetening.</p>
<p>Erroll</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 22:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errol,
I built a jumbo arbor press for making hard cider last year.  It really makes the pressing sequence fast.  I want to use this press to make Rainier wine. The method involved sandwiching multiple layers of whole cherries wrapped in linen (maybe 5 or 6 layers). Each layer might contain 20-30 Lbs of cherries.  In doing so, I think that most of the cherry pulp would remain in the wrapped sheets during the press so all that would flow into my collecting reservoir is the juice (less the pulp). I&#039;m hoping the pulp doesn&#039;t clog the pores in the sheets however at high pressing pressures  (250-750PSI) I don&#039;t think this will be an issue.  Do you think I can get good fermentation without the pulp (using just rehydrated Lalvin 71B).  I can also  retrieve the pulp from the sheets and store it in a cheese cloth to add to the must to enhance fermentation.  What do you suggest?  Also, since I grow cherries and apples for a living, is there any reason to add water to my must?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errol,<br />
I built a jumbo arbor press for making hard cider last year.  It really makes the pressing sequence fast.  I want to use this press to make Rainier wine. The method involved sandwiching multiple layers of whole cherries wrapped in linen (maybe 5 or 6 layers). Each layer might contain 20-30 Lbs of cherries.  In doing so, I think that most of the cherry pulp would remain in the wrapped sheets during the press so all that would flow into my collecting reservoir is the juice (less the pulp). I&#8217;m hoping the pulp doesn&#8217;t clog the pores in the sheets however at high pressing pressures  (250-750PSI) I don&#8217;t think this will be an issue.  Do you think I can get good fermentation without the pulp (using just rehydrated Lalvin 71B).  I can also  retrieve the pulp from the sheets and store it in a cheese cloth to add to the must to enhance fermentation.  What do you suggest?  Also, since I grow cherries and apples for a living, is there any reason to add water to my must?</p>
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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/06/30/cherry-wine-recipe/comment-page-1/#comment-41260</link>
		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Debbie,

I wrote about cranberries in my &quot;Know Your Ingredients&quot; series: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/12/12/know-your-ingredients-cranberries/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Know Your Ingredients: Cranberries&lt;/a&gt;. They&#039;re high in acid and low in sugar, so it&#039;s best to dilute cranberries when making wine (to deal with the high acid) and add sugar. Now, if you want to combine the cranberries with your cans of cherry juice, you&#039;ll need to take into account the sugar and acid of the cherry juice as well. I would juice the cranberries, add the cherry juice, then measure the volume of the combined juice, it&#039;s specific gravity (SG) and titratable acidity (TA). Plug those numbers, and your targets for SG and TA (if you don&#039;t know what you want to target, try 1.090 and 6 g/L) in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/wine-recipe-wizard/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wine Recipe Wizard&lt;/a&gt;. It will suggest water and sugar syrup additions to make a balanced must.

Hope this helps!
Erroll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Debbie,</p>
<p>I wrote about cranberries in my &#8220;Know Your Ingredients&#8221; series: <a href="http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/12/12/know-your-ingredients-cranberries/" rel="nofollow">Know Your Ingredients: Cranberries</a>. They&#8217;re high in acid and low in sugar, so it&#8217;s best to dilute cranberries when making wine (to deal with the high acid) and add sugar. Now, if you want to combine the cranberries with your cans of cherry juice, you&#8217;ll need to take into account the sugar and acid of the cherry juice as well. I would juice the cranberries, add the cherry juice, then measure the volume of the combined juice, it&#8217;s specific gravity (SG) and titratable acidity (TA). Plug those numbers, and your targets for SG and TA (if you don&#8217;t know what you want to target, try 1.090 and 6 g/L) in the <a href="http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/wine-recipe-wizard/" rel="nofollow">Wine Recipe Wizard</a>. It will suggest water and sugar syrup additions to make a balanced must.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!<br />
Erroll</p>
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