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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/06/30/cherry-wine-recipe/comment-page-1/#comment-36147</link>
		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 02:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kimmy,

I&#039;ve made measuring mistakes too! It&#039;s important not to panic, to document and measure as much as you can, then come up with a plan to fix things. If I had been following that recipe and noticed a PA of 25%, I&#039;d probably double everything else. Hopefully that would nudge the PA to about 12.5%. It sounds like you tried something like that. Now that you&#039;ve made your adjustment and its fermenting, I would let it run its course.

One danger in fermenting 8 gallons of must in a 10 gallon primary is overflow. If you can, I would transfer some of it to another primary. If not, try to keep an eye on the temperature. You&#039;ll need to balance two things here: keep it cool enough to slow down fermentation (so there&#039;s less foaming and less chance of overflow) but not so cool that fermentation get stuck. If you&#039;re using Red Star&#039;s Premier Cuvee, for example, you can ferment at 55 degrees Fahrenheit - that&#039;s a cool fermentation, but its 10 degrees above the yeast&#039;s minimum temperature.

Good luck Kimmy, and let me know how this little adventure turns out!

Erroll

By the way, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380782278?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=washinwinema-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0380782278&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Joy of Home Wine Making&lt;/a&gt; was my first book on how to make wine. It got me started and I still love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kimmy,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made measuring mistakes too! It&#8217;s important not to panic, to document and measure as much as you can, then come up with a plan to fix things. If I had been following that recipe and noticed a PA of 25%, I&#8217;d probably double everything else. Hopefully that would nudge the PA to about 12.5%. It sounds like you tried something like that. Now that you&#8217;ve made your adjustment and its fermenting, I would let it run its course.</p>
<p>One danger in fermenting 8 gallons of must in a 10 gallon primary is overflow. If you can, I would transfer some of it to another primary. If not, try to keep an eye on the temperature. You&#8217;ll need to balance two things here: keep it cool enough to slow down fermentation (so there&#8217;s less foaming and less chance of overflow) but not so cool that fermentation get stuck. If you&#8217;re using Red Star&#8217;s Premier Cuvee, for example, you can ferment at 55 degrees Fahrenheit &#8211; that&#8217;s a cool fermentation, but its 10 degrees above the yeast&#8217;s minimum temperature.</p>
<p>Good luck Kimmy, and let me know how this little adventure turns out!</p>
<p>Erroll</p>
<p>By the way, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380782278?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=washinwinema-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0380782278" rel="nofollow">The Joy of Home Wine Making</a> was my first book on how to make wine. It got me started and I still love it!</p>
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		<title>By: Kimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/06/30/cherry-wine-recipe/comment-page-1/#comment-36097</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I started some Cherry wine that I am getting excited about, but maybe I shouldn&#039;t.  I followed the recipe in the Joy of winemaking, and accidentally put in too much sugar.  My PA started at 25%.  I panicked, and added 2-3 more time the recipe, everything but sugar, and next day had a PA of 18.  (I now have 8 gallons of this in a 10 gallon primary), and the airlock was going crazy, I am fairly new at winemaking, but have not seen this happen before.  I am pretty excited, but hesitant at the same time knowing that this wine could be unstable with a PA of 18...Happy winemaking to all from Oregon.  Kimmy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I started some Cherry wine that I am getting excited about, but maybe I shouldn&#8217;t.  I followed the recipe in the Joy of winemaking, and accidentally put in too much sugar.  My PA started at 25%.  I panicked, and added 2-3 more time the recipe, everything but sugar, and next day had a PA of 18.  (I now have 8 gallons of this in a 10 gallon primary), and the airlock was going crazy, I am fairly new at winemaking, but have not seen this happen before.  I am pretty excited, but hesitant at the same time knowing that this wine could be unstable with a PA of 18&#8230;Happy winemaking to all from Oregon.  Kimmy</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/2007/06/30/cherry-wine-recipe/comment-page-1/#comment-32094</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I have just finished racking the cherry wine for the second time. It actually tastes like it will work out quite well. I will leave it to settle for another month or so with the airlock still in place and see what happens.
I was up at the vineyard this morning ( I have 150 odd Merlot vines up there). They are up to 20 brix on ave now, so I will be be getting ready for that lot. 
It sounds rather grand, but I have one of the smallest vinyards up there, and almost everybody around here has one. The locals used to think I was from planet zonk with my technical bits and pieces, now they ask me to test THEIR sugar!
Actually, it is really interesting, my Merlot are around 20 brix right now, and &#039;the local&#039; popular grapes are at 15-18 brix, they are called Aljirka. Anyone heard of that? They are the most deep purple colour I have ever seen, juice included. I have yet to taste a nice wine from them though, but I am sure it is not the grape at fault!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I have just finished racking the cherry wine for the second time. It actually tastes like it will work out quite well. I will leave it to settle for another month or so with the airlock still in place and see what happens.<br />
I was up at the vineyard this morning ( I have 150 odd Merlot vines up there). They are up to 20 brix on ave now, so I will be be getting ready for that lot.<br />
It sounds rather grand, but I have one of the smallest vinyards up there, and almost everybody around here has one. The locals used to think I was from planet zonk with my technical bits and pieces, now they ask me to test THEIR sugar!<br />
Actually, it is really interesting, my Merlot are around 20 brix right now, and &#8216;the local&#8217; popular grapes are at 15-18 brix, they are called Aljirka. Anyone heard of that? They are the most deep purple colour I have ever seen, juice included. I have yet to taste a nice wine from them though, but I am sure it is not the grape at fault!</p>
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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jerry,

I agree that adding the pectic enzyme right away will get you better extraction, and that&#039;s what I would do. I would also add the campden tablets right away to keep wild yeasts and other undesirable microorganisms in check. Sulfite can inhibit pectic enzyme, but not in the concentratios winemakers normally use.

Good luck, and do come back to let me know how the wine turns out!

Erroll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jerry,</p>
<p>I agree that adding the pectic enzyme right away will get you better extraction, and that&#8217;s what I would do. I would also add the campden tablets right away to keep wild yeasts and other undesirable microorganisms in check. Sulfite can inhibit pectic enzyme, but not in the concentratios winemakers normally use.</p>
<p>Good luck, and do come back to let me know how the wine turns out!</p>
<p>Erroll</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My neighbor is a  cherry orchardist and I talked  him into  giving me a box of  culls  left  over after the  harvest sorting. After pitting and stemming I  have 13 lbs. of  Bing cherries, frozen now. 

I plan on making a little over 2 gallons of wine and I&#039;m collecting recipes on the net right now. The most common  technique  I&#039;ve seen is  to soak the  cherries  in  plain water for 1 to 2 days and then strain before adding the Campden tablets and the pectic enzyme.

It seems to me that the pectic  enzyme would be able to extract a lot more juice if  it  were  added  while  the  cherry  pulp  was available.  Do you  have any advice  on when to add  the ingredients at the beginning?

Jerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My neighbor is a  cherry orchardist and I talked  him into  giving me a box of  culls  left  over after the  harvest sorting. After pitting and stemming I  have 13 lbs. of  Bing cherries, frozen now. </p>
<p>I plan on making a little over 2 gallons of wine and I&#8217;m collecting recipes on the net right now. The most common  technique  I&#8217;ve seen is  to soak the  cherries  in  plain water for 1 to 2 days and then strain before adding the Campden tablets and the pectic enzyme.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the pectic  enzyme would be able to extract a lot more juice if  it  were  added  while  the  cherry  pulp  was available.  Do you  have any advice  on when to add  the ingredients at the beginning?</p>
<p>Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for such a quick response. I will be in touch to let you know how I made out. Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for such a quick response. I will be in touch to let you know how I made out. Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracey, Lavlin&#039;s 71-B is the only one I know of. If you can&#039;t get that one, then I don&#039;t think any of the others will consume malic acid. Red Star&#039;s Premier Cuvee is very reliable (tolerates a wide temperature range and has high alcohol tolerance). It would be a good choice too.

Erroll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracey, Lavlin&#8217;s 71-B is the only one I know of. If you can&#8217;t get that one, then I don&#8217;t think any of the others will consume malic acid. Red Star&#8217;s Premier Cuvee is very reliable (tolerates a wide temperature range and has high alcohol tolerance). It would be a good choice too.</p>
<p>Erroll</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erroll, I am making a bing cherry wine coming good so far. Do you know of anthor yeast besides 71B by Lalvin? The store I go to does not have this exact brand. Is there anthor to cut down the maltic? Thank you. asap if you could. Oh by the way you have best site going for the home wine making. Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erroll, I am making a bing cherry wine coming good so far. Do you know of anthor yeast besides 71B by Lalvin? The store I go to does not have this exact brand. Is there anthor to cut down the maltic? Thank you. asap if you could. Oh by the way you have best site going for the home wine making. Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jennifer,

No need to pit, just destem, &lt;em&gt;crush&lt;/em&gt;, add sugar, water, and yeast. The trick is in knowing how much sugar and water to add. A country wine recipe makes that easy. Making it like an ordinary wine from grapes is more work, but if you can estimate the juice yield of the cherries (even if you aren&#039;t juicing them) and measure the specific gravity and titratable acidity of a clear sample, then you can use my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/wine-recipe-wizard/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wine recipe wizard&lt;/a&gt; to get suggested amounts of water, sugar syrup, and acid.

Erroll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jennifer,</p>
<p>No need to pit, just destem, <em>crush</em>, add sugar, water, and yeast. The trick is in knowing how much sugar and water to add. A country wine recipe makes that easy. Making it like an ordinary wine from grapes is more work, but if you can estimate the juice yield of the cherries (even if you aren&#8217;t juicing them) and measure the specific gravity and titratable acidity of a clear sample, then you can use my <a href="http://www.washingtonwinemaker.com/blog/wine-recipe-wizard/" rel="nofollow">wine recipe wizard</a> to get suggested amounts of water, sugar syrup, and acid.</p>
<p>Erroll</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do the cherries have to be pitted? I have a case of BC Cherries and want to make wine. Can i just destem and add sugar, water and yeast? Please eamil me back with the best approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do the cherries have to be pitted? I have a case of BC Cherries and want to make wine. Can i just destem and add sugar, water and yeast? Please eamil me back with the best approach.</p>
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